Response to “Senator Brian Nieves on Gun Laws”

Response to “Senator Brian Nieves on Gun Laws”

Senator Nieves,

Your Jan. 4 Patch blog post “ claimed that you “just sat down and started writing and this is what came out” and that you were writing “from the heart”.  Presumably this would suggest that you did not apply much thoughtful reflection or complex reasoning to your comments.  The absurd, and possibly treasonous, content of your post certainly indicates that this is the case.

What is so absurd you ask?  There are far too many claims in your post to address each one, but the fact that you suggest that there should be an AR-15 in every closet in every home to protect against some mythical invading army – BECAUSE OF U.S. CURRENCY DEVALUATION?  Apparently you have been watching too much “Red Dawn," or you are using fear to appeal to your followers for campaign contributions?

Or an even more insidious claim, that American citizens should be prepared to take up arms against their own “government?   I’m pretty sure Nancy Pelosi and Eric Holder won’t be coming after us themselves, so what you seem to be suggesting is that we arm ourselves so that we can fire upon the sons and daughters of our own friends, family and neighbors that are in the U.S. Military?  No?  What American citizens are you asking us to take arms up against then?

I would have thought that you might have learned something from similar un-thinking comments made by a recent U.S. Senate candidate from Missouri.   There are consequences to making absurd comments, as Mr. Akin found out, and while history will be the judge here, it is my hope that your comments will yield results similar to those of Mr. Akin.

No, now that I think about it more, you losing your job is certainly NOT what I am hoping for.

Let me see now, what do I really hope for? How about these to start?

I hope that you will….

  1. STOP the “Left/Right” Divisiveness that is tearing our families, neighborhoods, communities and country apart, and that you will encourage your constituents and other politicians to do the same.
  2. RETURN the Constitutional Principle of “Fair and Reasonable Compromise” back to the political discourse.  You didn’t get elected to compromise you say?  Just imagine if John Adams and James Madison would have said the same!  Compromise is a civic and patriotic responsibility of all Americans – especially those in elected offices that represent all citizens, not just those that voted for them. The fact that we cannot have machine guns, bazookas and hand grenades tells us that we CAN compromise on weapons.  Now is the time to step up and do it.
  3. STOP the Fear Mongering, demagogic, reckless, hysterical, deliberate, and typically unsubstantiated accusations and/or personal attacks on the character, loyalty, patriotism, and beliefs of an individual opponent or group for political gain in the guise of patriotism and/or “national security, or to fill one’s campaign coffers.  We had McCarthyism once in this country, when we turned against our own friends, family, neighbors and co-workers. Hopefully we’ll remember those horrible mistakes of the 1950s and NEVER REPEAT THEM AGAIN.
  4. RETURN our Democracy to the People by reducing the corruptive influence of money on our federal, state and local governments. These profiteers are padding their pockets at the expense of our democratic process and the future well-being of us and our children.  Refusing NRA political contributions would be a great place to start!
  5. ACT Upon the Greatest Challenge, and greatest opportunity, humankind has ever faced.  Climate change is not a hoax, nor is it “liberal”.  It's fundamental physics and it’s a threat to the welfare of your children and the children of the world.

    Fifty years from now, or less, your children could be forgiven for asking what action you took on climate change back in 2013:

“Dad, why did your generation ignore the consensus among climate scientists and the clear warnings of the National Academy of Science?

Well, son, this guy on the radio said it was all a great hoax by Al Gore and the Liberals who wanted to raise our taxes and create more “big govt”!

OK, Dad, I understand that some people disagreed, but what about the record droughts, heat waves and storms? I know these are all much worse now, but back in 2013, that was still really bad weather for the time!

Come on, son, you don’t understand what we were dealing with back in 2013. We had to save traditional marriage from the gays! The billionaires needed more tax breaks! We had to defund the EPA! Dealing with the climate system on which all human life depends just wasn’t a priority!”

There is nothing more “conservative” than conserving the climate system upon which human life, including our own children, depends.

Climate Change is not about politics… it’s about physics, and physics really doesn’t compromise. 

History will be our judge.

I am an Independent, and a proud and hopeful American citizen, and I offer my services and support in helping you achieve these admittedly lofty goals in any way that I can.

Larry Lazar, Eureka, Missouri

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Caffeinated January 07, 2013 at 02:39 PM
Any chance you might consider running for office in the future? You have my vote.
Adam Leiweke January 07, 2013 at 02:54 PM
I have a completely different opinion than Mr Lazar, I do agree with Senator Nieves on Gun laws and do fear our constitutional rights are being threatened daily and the 2nd amendment isn't about hunting its about us being able to protect ourselves, our families and our neighbors, The 2nd amendment was written that way to ensure we could protect ourselves from threats both foreign and domestic, Mr. Nieves was elected because he was a strong conservative and the populous elected him to uphold those opinion and beliefs. We elected him so he would NOT compromise for more liberal agendas.
REPUBLIC RISING January 07, 2013 at 03:42 PM
What a bunch of Malarky - foolish brainwashed indoctrination... Pleaase show us where in the constitution it says there has to be compromise. http://intro.jointhedejurerepublic.com/index.php I'm PRO CHOICE ON GUNS - don't like GUNS, Don't Get one. That is your Right and your Coice, I respect that, now please respect My Right and My Choice.
Larry Lazar January 07, 2013 at 03:47 PM
Thank you for your comment "Republic" More than anything else, our Constitution is an embodiment of the spirit of fair and reasonable compromise. The Framers of the Constitution were a diverse group of men representing a wide range of interested parties. They were from all different walks of society – haves/have not’s, city/country, religious and non, farmers/bankers, slaveholders/abolitionists and on and on. About the only thing they had in common was that each and every one of them had different views on what the “rules” of the new republic should be. They also all had a bunch of demanding constituents back home that were sponsoring them, ie paying them wads of cash, to represent their own unique interests – much like the politicians of today. At the Constitutional Convention in the hot Philadelphia summer of 1787, the “debate” consisted mostly of the framers yelling and screaming at each other for months on end. The building in which these debates were held, had the windows nailed shut and the blinds closed - to keep out spies and on-lookers (yes, the Constitution of our country was created behind closed and locked doors). I’m sure the aroma in there was just lovely. Continued
Larry Lazar January 07, 2013 at 03:50 PM
The delegates had tremendous arguments, many of led to fighting it out with bare fists. If you think the debate over health care reform was rancorous, can you imagine the fight over slavery? They did not end the “debate” with a “Perfect” document – far from it. The original document was so disliked that eighteen of the fifty-five delegates refused to sign and thirteen walked out because the considered it a complete failure. Despite the enormous differences that existed between them, they re-wrote and rewrote and rewrote until ultimately then came up with a document that absolutely no one was happy with, but that everyone could live with. They did the best they could to accommodate a wide variety of diverse interests – in other words, they compromised. Because that is how a Democracy works – parties with diverse interests, each giving and taking, but ultimately coming together for the common good. That is the very basis of a Democratic Republic. After the Constitution was finally ratified, Ben Franklin had this to say about their effort: “There are several parts of this bill which I do not at present approve, but with some work and level headed compromise someday I might. I doubt that any other caucus could have made a better deal, for all of us.” The reality is that if you always get what you want, then it’s not a democracy. Failing to compromiseis a failure to American citizens and to the very foundation of our democracy.
REPUBLIC RISING January 07, 2013 at 04:14 PM
by the way all your points are way off base but lets look at #4 Show us Constitutional and Historical proof that America is a Democracy. Lep me help you a little Democracy is REPUGNANT to the Constitution (Art. IV Sec. 4) and The Pledge of Allegiance to The Republic.
Larry Lazar January 07, 2013 at 04:22 PM
Indeed, you are correct, the US is in fact a "Representative Democracy", however, my point still stands that the "Republic" has been compromised by the corruptive influence of money.
Doug January 07, 2013 at 05:24 PM
Larry, excellent response.
REPUBLIC RISING January 07, 2013 at 05:26 PM
Show your proof in the COnstitution or elsewhere that America is a "Representative Democracy". America was founded as a Constitutional Representative Republic. Do you even know the difference between a Republic and a Democracy (Communism in Infancy)?
REPUBLIC RISING January 07, 2013 at 05:43 PM
Yes the founders even had duels and had lifetime feuds one especially between Adams (Father of The Constitution) and Jefferson and they both died the same on July 4th and I believe Adams said in his death bed that his only regret was that the other outlived him and they actually both died same day. They didn't work on any COMPROMISE they worked on Honor, Just, Truth, Common Law, always respecting theier spiritual conscience and The Creator, etc. There was no Compromise there was leading others to a higher standing of Order protecting The People's Rights and Freedoms and Limiting/Chaining the EVIL of GOV'T and Officeholders. I would suggest you read a very short story about an American hero Davy Crockett "SOCKDOLAGER" (knockout or what we would also say Checkmate) to see how far we have gone into Majority Rule/Mob Rule or COMPROMISE when there is compromise it usually is a LOSS. Never Compromise your standards or the standards set by much more knowledgeable people than all the GOV'T put together today - The Constitution and the Founders. When we start down the slippery sloipe of compromise we all get Compromised, when we CON PROMISE we get a CON's Promise that CONS all of us. There is evidence of this ANYWHERE we have been Conned and are COMPROMISED. When is the last time anything was reversed on a CONSTITUTIONAL Challenge? CONT.
REPUBLIC RISING January 07, 2013 at 05:43 PM
CONT: SOCKDOLAGER (should be taught in every household, church, school, etc.) gov't charity by extortion is not charity but a CRIME under color of Law - anything done under color of law is a Federal Felony - (Tile 18 - 242, 245 & Title 42 -1983). http://personalliberty.com/2010/04/09/sockdolager-a-tale-of-davy-crockett-charity-and-congress/
REPUBLIC RISING January 07, 2013 at 05:50 PM
Correction: (sorry about that made a mistake) There is evidence of this **EVERYWHERE** we have been Conned and are COMPROMISED. PS BTW Editors/Moderators The DELETE doesn't work and Why haven't they added a EDIT feature? You may want to pass that on to the website gurus
Hansek Palet January 07, 2013 at 09:56 PM
Larry, Thanks for a response that I can agree a lot more with than Mr. Nieves. I am sure Mr. Nieves and his compatriots have the best of intentions at heart, but from my perspective the fears he communicates are unfounded. Liberals, Conservatives and everyone in between (how I wish there were more of us in that in between part !!) are both looking at the same verbiage of the 2nd Amendment but laying emphasis on different pieces of it. Here is how I would deconstruct the sentence: WHAT: "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms", shall not be infringed. This is dearest to our dear friends and neighbors on the RIGHT HOW: "A well regulated Militia" The is dearest to our dear friends and neighbors on the LEFT (emphasis on WELL REGULATED) WHY: "the security of a free State" Whoa, we sure be having universal agreement on this objective between the left and the right ! OK, OK, have I bought truce at least temporarily ? Did we inch back a little from the gun debate cliff ? Oh, poor, naive Hansek, still listening to John Lennon's Imagine.....
REPUBLIC RISING January 08, 2013 at 04:22 AM
Hansek & Larry, I want to show appreaciation for your respectable discussion, hopefully we can all find knowledge. A Well regulated didn't mean what regulated means today - meant Prepared and Well equiped to deal with the enemy - which they knew that most likely would be the Gov't that like fire which at best is a dangerous servant and a terrible master. Don't ever make the mistake to think that the left, Progressive Erosionist Failures want a free state - what they want is everything Free from someone else's Estate. Americans instead of sitting here arguing and wasting your breath with Loonie Erosionist Progressive Failures that twist facts like the worst of lawyers, you shoul dbe learning how to be Free from Their Treason & Tyranny. REPUBLIC RISING is the only Constitutional Lawful Solution that will get us out of the Pacts with The Liberal Devils by using knowledge and Law to be Free on The Land Again and get rid of the Debt Monkey off our backs. Contact me if you want to learn more about Our Republic - America. Lets dedicate our time to something that will actually benefit us and our own by opting out of their SLAVERY FRAUD DEMOCRACY. MassFreeState@gmail.com
Backgammon January 08, 2013 at 02:58 PM
So far, I am with Republic Rising! Don't like guns, don't buy one!
Hansek Palet January 08, 2013 at 08:21 PM
The Supreme Court observed in District of Columbia v. Heller: <i>Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."</i> Reference: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf


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