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Thank you, Patch, for Such Great Coverage on Republican 2nd Congressional District Debate
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Here is the minute-by-minute transcript that the Patch published. It is worthy of a second look:
2:36 We're getting the blog started a little early...The debate doesn't start for another 25 minutes or so, but folks are starting to file in. First time using this system, so bear with me! Saturday October 1, 2011 2:36 2:38 The Wagner campaign put out a statement at 2:30 announcing the endorsement of John Ashcroft. Saturday October 1, 2011 2:38 2:54 Microphones being checked and tested...good-sized crowd. As Vin Scully says, pull up a chair, we're just getting started.
Saturday October 1, 2011 2:54 2:57 Candidates have entered the room, working the crowd. Saturday October 1, 2011 2:57 3:08 MO House Speaker Designate Tim Jones laying out the process for questions from the audience.
Saturday October 1, 2011 3:08 3:11 Candidates are at separate podiums....Hard to get picture of both of them together so far.
Saturday October 1, 2011 3:11 3:12 Martin won the coin toss and will open. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:12 3:13 3 minutes, 1 minute rebuttal if necessary Saturday October 1, 2011 3:13 3:17 Chris Howard--choosing between Martin and Wagner...tough Saturday October 1, 2011 3:17 3:20 Howard: "Ann I love you to death, good luck. Ed, I love you to death, good luck."
5 minute opening statement
Saturday October 1, 2011 3:20 3:23 Martin opens. "Can we keep our Republic?"
"We see a President clinging to his notion of what it means to be an American..."
"America means oppportunity, liberty and confidence."
Sorry, Chris is one of the GOP Committeemen who organized the event. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:23 3:25 Martin: President Obama doesn't get it...Congress doesn't get it.
We need to replace our President.
Wagner: first of all, go Cardinals! Saturday October 1, 2011 3:25 3:26 Wagner: Ed, I want to thank you. You always put yourself in the arena. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:26 3:30 Wagner telling story of 1989 call to serve John Ashcroft in Jefferson City, announces his endorsement, boosting her conservative credentials.
I stand before you.....I doer, a fighter, a first time candidate" Saturday October 1, 2011 3:30 3:32 First Question:
After Obamacare is repealed or ruled unconstitutional, what's your vision of replacing it: Saturday October 1, 2011 3:32 3:34 Martin: Medicare Advantage gives people a skin in the game. Expand it. Health Savings Accounts. Bottom feeding plaintiff's attorneys are hurting business and healthcare. "We want a safety net, not a hammock." Saturday October 1, 2011 3:34 3:37 Wagner: The very first thing I will do will do is repeal ObamaCare. Praises State Senator Jane Cunningham (in the audience) for work on Prop C. Medical Savings Accounts, Tort Reform, Portability across state lines.
Saturday October 1, 2011 3:37 3:39 Question: if you were in Congress, right now today, would you support the current Jobs bill. If not, what's your idea?
Wagner--President Obama tone deaf, wants to raise taxes $1.5 trillion. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:39 3:41 Wagner: "I will never raise your taxes". Lower tax rates for individuals, corporations, stop loopholes, regulation. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:41 3:43 Martin: Talks up recent McCarthur's Bakery experience, in the vein of a program started by John Ashcroft. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:43 3:44 Cut government, lower taxes, cut power of government. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:44 3:45 Question: Immigration question has tripped up presidential candidates. What is your general position on Illegal Immigration. What to do with those who are here, what would you do....Martin up first Saturday October 1, 2011 3:45 3:48 Martin: Be a nation of the rule of law...Secure the border. Hold businesses accountable. References work of Governor Blunt administration's work on illegal immigration. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:48 3:52 Wagner: Secure the border. Build the fence. No amnesty for illiegal immigrants. Have them leave one at a time. They should not have the rights and access as citizens. Disgrace when the federal government sues states doing the feds.
First Rebuttal from Martin: Bush/Wagner RNC supported path to citizenship.
Wagner: Immigration is a Bush policy she did not agree with. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:52 3:54 Martin: If you come here illegally, can't vote. Can't give benefits--"what Rick Perry fell for."
Wagner: Path to citizenship is legal immigration. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:54 3:55 Question: What are your positions on labor unions? do you support right to work? Saturday October 1, 2011 3:55 3:57 Wagner:We're surrounded by right to work states. Unemployment is lower, wages are higher. People are voting with their feet, moving to right-to-work states. Critical of NLRB actions in Boeing case. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:57 3:58 Wagner: Do not support collective bargaining for public employees. No one a bigger hero in issues of unions/collective bargaining than Governor Chris Christie. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:58 4:00 Martin: Supports Rand Paul right to work legislation in the Senate. Force Jay Nixon to answer the question in Missouri, if he won't--replace Jay Nixon--through legislation
Abolish public sector unions. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:00 4:05 Entitlement Reform: Specifics on fixing:
Martin: if you pay into SS/Medicare, you get your benefit. "We're the only country on the world who has poor people who are obese." We have to be willing to say what's on the chopping block is everything. Food Stamps, medicaid.
Unemployment insurance lasting 99 weeks We can't take from all that are working" Saturday October 1, 2011 4:05 4:06 Wagner: Not about cuts, its about saving for the future. Keep promises to Seniors. Ryan Plan is a starting point for having an adult conversation. Move from entitlement to ownership. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:06 4:10 Question: Is Social Security a Ponzi Scheme, if it isn't how describe it:
Wagner calls it bankrupt and broken.
Martin says its worse than a Ponzi scheme. "I don't want to take on Rick Perry...He hasn't endorsed you yet?" Gets a laugh from the crowd as he turns to Wagner. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:10 4:13 Question on overregulation:
Martin: We have to vote right, and then we have to take on departments. Demand transparency. Highlights how the Blunt admin. launched the MO Accountability Portal. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:13 4:14 Wagner: Matt Blunt also had a great state party chairman... And yes, his father endorsed me" Saturday October 1, 2011 4:14 4:17 Cardinals score announced: leading 3-0...Berkman with a home run. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:17 4:27 Candidates asked about the Principle they wouldn't yield on:
Wagner talks about government spending, balanced budgets and rails against the debt-ceiling deal.
Martin references John 5:5. None of this is worth it if we won't have a culture to stand up for life. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:27 4:29 2nd Amendment:
Martin:Not about hunting, fishing, sports
Rich Heller, involved in DC-area gun rights case, coming to the district to support him. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:29 4:31 Both candidates have brought up California Congressman Darrel Issa, a GOP Watchdog.
Wagner: supports 2nd amendment, It's about protecting families. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:31 4:32 Wagner references Daily Show interview during her RNC bid where she said she had 16 guns.
5 minutes for closing statements. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:32 4:38 Martin: one thing we can agree on: Obama needs to be a 1 term President.
This is a big election for the region. Returns to running theme throughout about voting not being enough. Announces that his wife is endorsing him. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:38 4:43 Wagner:" I am a deeply committed conservative"
Roy Blunt (who's campaign she helped) did so well in the last election that Robin Carnahan "cashed it in" yesterday..
I want to be more than your conservative vote, I want to be your conservative voice. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:43 4:46 Debate is over. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:46 4:59 After a post-debate hub, candidates greeted their supporters, took pictures with Marquette High School students who helped with the event, and talked with Patch. And with that, I'm hearing that the Cardinals are still winning 3-0. Check back with the Patch site in your community for a post-debate wrap. Good Night. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:59
Saturday October 1, 2011 2:54 2:57 Candidates have entered the room, working the crowd. Saturday October 1, 2011 2:57 3:08 MO House Speaker Designate Tim Jones laying out the process for questions from the audience.
Saturday October 1, 2011 3:08 3:11 Candidates are at separate podiums....Hard to get picture of both of them together so far.
Saturday October 1, 2011 3:11 3:12 Martin won the coin toss and will open. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:12 3:13 3 minutes, 1 minute rebuttal if necessary Saturday October 1, 2011 3:13 3:17 Chris Howard--choosing between Martin and Wagner...tough Saturday October 1, 2011 3:17 3:20 Howard: "Ann I love you to death, good luck. Ed, I love you to death, good luck."
5 minute opening statement
Saturday October 1, 2011 3:20 3:23 Martin opens. "Can we keep our Republic?"
"We see a President clinging to his notion of what it means to be an American..."
"America means oppportunity, liberty and confidence."
Sorry, Chris is one of the GOP Committeemen who organized the event. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:23 3:25 Martin: President Obama doesn't get it...Congress doesn't get it.
We need to replace our President.
Wagner: first of all, go Cardinals! Saturday October 1, 2011 3:25 3:26 Wagner: Ed, I want to thank you. You always put yourself in the arena. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:26 3:30 Wagner telling story of 1989 call to serve John Ashcroft in Jefferson City, announces his endorsement, boosting her conservative credentials.
I stand before you.....I doer, a fighter, a first time candidate" Saturday October 1, 2011 3:30 3:32 First Question:
After Obamacare is repealed or ruled unconstitutional, what's your vision of replacing it: Saturday October 1, 2011 3:32 3:34 Martin: Medicare Advantage gives people a skin in the game. Expand it. Health Savings Accounts. Bottom feeding plaintiff's attorneys are hurting business and healthcare. "We want a safety net, not a hammock." Saturday October 1, 2011 3:34 3:37 Wagner: The very first thing I will do will do is repeal ObamaCare. Praises State Senator Jane Cunningham (in the audience) for work on Prop C. Medical Savings Accounts, Tort Reform, Portability across state lines.
Saturday October 1, 2011 3:37 3:39 Question: if you were in Congress, right now today, would you support the current Jobs bill. If not, what's your idea?
Wagner--President Obama tone deaf, wants to raise taxes $1.5 trillion. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:39 3:41 Wagner: "I will never raise your taxes". Lower tax rates for individuals, corporations, stop loopholes, regulation. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:41 3:43 Martin: Talks up recent McCarthur's Bakery experience, in the vein of a program started by John Ashcroft. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:43 3:44 Cut government, lower taxes, cut power of government. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:44 3:45 Question: Immigration question has tripped up presidential candidates. What is your general position on Illegal Immigration. What to do with those who are here, what would you do....Martin up first Saturday October 1, 2011 3:45 3:48 Martin: Be a nation of the rule of law...Secure the border. Hold businesses accountable. References work of Governor Blunt administration's work on illegal immigration. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:48 3:52 Wagner: Secure the border. Build the fence. No amnesty for illiegal immigrants. Have them leave one at a time. They should not have the rights and access as citizens. Disgrace when the federal government sues states doing the feds.
First Rebuttal from Martin: Bush/Wagner RNC supported path to citizenship.
Wagner: Immigration is a Bush policy she did not agree with. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:52 3:54 Martin: If you come here illegally, can't vote. Can't give benefits--"what Rick Perry fell for."
Wagner: Path to citizenship is legal immigration. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:54 3:55 Question: What are your positions on labor unions? do you support right to work? Saturday October 1, 2011 3:55 3:57 Wagner:We're surrounded by right to work states. Unemployment is lower, wages are higher. People are voting with their feet, moving to right-to-work states. Critical of NLRB actions in Boeing case. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:57 3:58 Wagner: Do not support collective bargaining for public employees. No one a bigger hero in issues of unions/collective bargaining than Governor Chris Christie. Saturday October 1, 2011 3:58 4:00 Martin: Supports Rand Paul right to work legislation in the Senate. Force Jay Nixon to answer the question in Missouri, if he won't--replace Jay Nixon--through legislation
Abolish public sector unions. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:00 4:05 Entitlement Reform: Specifics on fixing:
Martin: if you pay into SS/Medicare, you get your benefit. "We're the only country on the world who has poor people who are obese." We have to be willing to say what's on the chopping block is everything. Food Stamps, medicaid.
Unemployment insurance lasting 99 weeks We can't take from all that are working" Saturday October 1, 2011 4:05 4:06 Wagner: Not about cuts, its about saving for the future. Keep promises to Seniors. Ryan Plan is a starting point for having an adult conversation. Move from entitlement to ownership. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:06 4:10 Question: Is Social Security a Ponzi Scheme, if it isn't how describe it:
Wagner calls it bankrupt and broken.
Martin says its worse than a Ponzi scheme. "I don't want to take on Rick Perry...He hasn't endorsed you yet?" Gets a laugh from the crowd as he turns to Wagner. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:10 4:13 Question on overregulation:
Martin: We have to vote right, and then we have to take on departments. Demand transparency. Highlights how the Blunt admin. launched the MO Accountability Portal. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:13 4:14 Wagner: Matt Blunt also had a great state party chairman... And yes, his father endorsed me" Saturday October 1, 2011 4:14 4:17 Cardinals score announced: leading 3-0...Berkman with a home run. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:17 4:27 Candidates asked about the Principle they wouldn't yield on:
Wagner talks about government spending, balanced budgets and rails against the debt-ceiling deal.
Martin references John 5:5. None of this is worth it if we won't have a culture to stand up for life. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:27 4:29 2nd Amendment:
Martin:Not about hunting, fishing, sports
Rich Heller, involved in DC-area gun rights case, coming to the district to support him. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:29 4:31 Both candidates have brought up California Congressman Darrel Issa, a GOP Watchdog.
Wagner: supports 2nd amendment, It's about protecting families. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:31 4:32 Wagner references Daily Show interview during her RNC bid where she said she had 16 guns.
5 minutes for closing statements. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:32 4:38 Martin: one thing we can agree on: Obama needs to be a 1 term President.
This is a big election for the region. Returns to running theme throughout about voting not being enough. Announces that his wife is endorsing him. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:38 4:43 Wagner:" I am a deeply committed conservative"
Roy Blunt (who's campaign she helped) did so well in the last election that Robin Carnahan "cashed it in" yesterday..
I want to be more than your conservative vote, I want to be your conservative voice. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:43 4:46 Debate is over. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:46 4:59 After a post-debate hub, candidates greeted their supporters, took pictures with Marquette High School students who helped with the event, and talked with Patch. And with that, I'm hearing that the Cardinals are still winning 3-0. Check back with the Patch site in your community for a post-debate wrap. Good Night. Saturday October 1, 2011 4:59
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